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Azly Rahman Create a "PALESTINIAN GLOBAL-VILLAGE" in every country that cares for the plight of the Palestinians. Just like in the early days of the migration of the Protestants to America during the Reformation Period, young families of Palestinians can be given land in a "city-state" created by each country. Just like Proton City in Malaysia, or Cyberjaya or Putrajaya or Brasilia, these modern enclaves ought to be created. [OUR USUAL REMINDER, FOLKS:
Comments (32)  ... written by by2020, January 11, 2009 14:40:58 Grand brain child from Dr Azly, PR state should move on this quickly! Instead of just street protest , this is one concrete step that Malaysian can take to help. Many Malaysian should be willing to join in and help. report abuse disagree 30 agree 1 ... written by Arubin, January 11, 2009 14:47:22 Good idea, but why not a Darfur Global Village as well? Sigh...I suppose the only way to get people to care about Darfur will be to get Israel to bomb the place. After all, it only seems to be a crime if its the Jews who are doing the killing. But if its Muslims killing each other, no one cares. report abuse disagree 9 agree 44 ... written by rhyder, January 11, 2009 15:29:42 why should the palestinians be moved FROM THEIR OWN LAND?it would make more sense to move the jews back to europe where they came from. report abuse disagree 26 agree 29 ... written by kavidibaku, January 11, 2009 15:38:46 I wonder what is the difference between the Gaza Humanitarian Crisis and Malaysian nons being sidelined. report abuse disagree 2 agree 27 ... written by ahmadneil, January 11, 2009 15:40:39 Don't bring them to my country becos we have enough of our own problems here with the muslim extremist, who broke into the Bar Council dialogue unwelcome.I don't want these Palestinians to join forces with there muslims brother here to steal our beautiful chinese girls.And also,been brought up in a different ways,these Palestinians will come here with bad habits like throwing stones and making rockets.They might team up with Shit Hamid and gangs,to fire these rockets into Singapore,and thus resulting in another conflict which might further drain our coffers.With the Israelis having so much hatred,they might fly their planes over to malaysia and bomb their so called Palestinian Village.Furthermore,the Palestinians, who spent so much time fighting the Israelis and find little time studying,will come here to add to our gov't's burden of educating them.They will over populated our schools,college,universities etc.They will also steal our share of handouts,economic cakes etc.With all these,I say thanks but no thanks! Stay where they are and let the Israelis deal with this unruly pecies. Moreover,this are there problems and they have to solve it themselves.If they don't want to ,then let it be ,fight to their death as they like.Remember, when the Vietnamese refugees,who came in their boats to escape from the fighting in Vietnam,the malaysian gov't ordered the armed forces to 'shoot on sight'when they see them coming over to the east coast.We may never know how many didn't make it to the shores of Kelantan and Trengganu.Some did, but were thrown out to Thailand, Australia and other countries who are more than willing to accept them. I hope they won't step on our land,but if on holiday,I don't mind. report abuse disagree 13 agree 57 ... written by ahmadneil, January 11, 2009 15:42:09 Since this is a war supported by USA,then ask these Palestinians to go to the states. report abuse disagree 9 agree 16 ... written by kingelvis, January 11, 2009 15:51:58 Why look so far Dr! Fight for the rights of non-muslims in Malaysia first. Surely their rights are just as much trampled on as the Palestinians. report abuse disagree 8 agree 31 ... written by kingelvis, January 11, 2009 15:55:26 Azly babe read the criticisms of your words. They (your words) ring so hollow. We muslims and nons are made by the same maker and will be answerable to HIM. Think before reaching for the pen! report abuse disagree 4 agree 12 ... written by What Nil Wisdom, January 11, 2009 16:27:08 Oh my good Doctor Azly, you are a MUNAFIQ. Why must the infidels pay to take care of the Muslims?Can't the Muslims take care of themselves?Muslims in Malaysia constantly shriek about how the US is the enemy of Palestine, the US kills Muslims, the US supports the Zionists, the US is evil.And how Malaysians and Muslims everywhere must take up the call to doing everything they can to 'save' Palestine.So 1.2 billion Muslims are either unable or unwilling to come up with the requisite sum?Is that what you claim?Well, that's obvious hogwash,when oil exports net the Gulf (i.e. Muslim) countries alone hundreds of billions of dollars a year, every year, for decades.Here's another idea, a better idea.How about Muslim countries adopt Palestinians, give them citizenship and equal rights in their own countries, along with financial stipends and generous allowances to start new lives afresh in the spirit of Muslim brotherhood.Throw in education and job training.And Malaysia can show just how Islamic and benevolent they are by importing a token number of Palestinian refugees (perhaps 100,000),give them jobs, land, homes, education, and show the spirit of true charity to the world.Other Muslim countries with Palestinian refugee populations,like Egypt and Lebanon,can follow suit.Why are Muslims allowing other Muslims (i.e. Palestinians) to remain stateless and destitute? Why keep these people in squalid refugee camps decade after decade?There is a solution for their suffering,and it doesn't involve the actions of infidels(UN, EU, etc),fighting yet another pointless war,or the destruction of Israel.In other words, Muslims should get over past defeats and move on.But let's face it the chance of this solution getting accepted is abysmally low.The Muslims have been in the habit,for centuries,of deciding on failed solutions(like trying to destroy Israel),and sticking with them no matter what.This has resulted in poor economic,educational and political performance. Despite all the oil wealth,literacy,economic growth and all manner of performance indicators in the Muslim/Arab world are among the lowest on the planet.We are dealing with a self-destructive culture that likes to blame others for their problems, problems Muslims could easily solve themselves. But you never know. Bold solutions have been accepted, occasionally, in the past. It's rare, and one can only hope. Because hope is about all that's left. The alternative is more generations of hatred and violence. report abuse disagree 5 agree 29 ... written by thumb, January 11, 2009 16:43:44 Dear Dr, do you remember what happened sometime ago in Lebanon, Palestinian's village infiltrated by terrorist in their midst and caused a big problem to the Lebanese government and deaths of innocent. If Jordan, Egypt and now Fatah can work out something with Israel why can't Hamas. It is because they think everything in the context of religion and not a struggle for their people and country. report abuse disagree 3 agree 19 ... written by temenggong, January 11, 2009 16:51:36 The Two-Nation Deal, Israel and Palestine, is still there, if they want it. Just have to sign on the dotted lines. report abuse disagree 2 agree 13 ... written by ASK4u, January 11, 2009 17:39:43 This is the best part. Hamas has rejected a truce proposed by UN. They say that they will continue fighting. It shows clearly that Hamas don't care for the safety and life of the people of Gaza especially children. They don't seem to understand the simple equation that their ideology will simple die-off when there is no one around left to fulfill it. They should accept the cease fire and employ diplomatic means to settle their grievances with Israel, more so when they are clearly not a match with Israel fire power. Hamas leaders should be wise and exercise restraint and patience. We don't have to worry about Israel because it is heading on a self-destruct mode. The Jews in ancient times were banished from the land of Israel because they had failed to fulfill their obligations to the Al-mighty. Every Jew acknowledges this in his prayers (Umipnei Chatoeinu Golinu Meiartzeinu). They accepted the penalty of exile and were at that time expressed sworn by the Al-mighty not to accelerate their redemption on their own, and especially not to rebel against the nations under whose rule they were found. To the contrary, every Jew is commanded to pray for the peace and well being of the government of which he is the subject. Through all the years of exile, pious Jews as individuals were attracted to reside in the Holy Land because of its innate holy character and the opportunity it offered for the observance of various precepts bound in the land. Jews as a whole continue to pray that the Al-mighty return his Divine presence to the Land of Israel, by the coming of the Messiah, who will build His Temple, from whence will emanate Divine Wisdom and ultimate spiritual fulfillment of the entire human race. Through the many years that Jews resided in the Holy Land for this purpose, they enjoyed tranquil and cordial relations with the non-Jewish population there. The Zionist ideology is antithetical to the Torah. Zionism was deviously designed to replace the Torah and its holy, God-given commandments with nationalistic, power-driven ideals that are devoid of holiness, godliness, or spirituality. God-fearing Jews believe that the ultimate Redemption of the Jewish Nation will come about only through the Hands of God, and that at the time of the Redemption, peace will reign in the entire world. Any other type of forced redemption is but a sinful transgression, condemned by God and His Holy Torah. What more proof does one need than the fact that for centuries, Jews have lived peacefully in Arabic countries, enjoying the respect and friendship of their neighbors? The tragedy of Zionism changed all of that. The painful truth is that in the eyes of the Zionist government, Jews are merely the cannon-fodder needed for the State of Israel to achieve its agenda. Obviously, the State of Israel has absolutely no connection with either Jews or Judaism. Furthermore, Torah-true Jews did not participate in the founding of the State, and for decades, we have announced our disapproval and disassociation from the State of Israel at every opportunity. Orthodox True Torah Jew's like the ones massacred in Mumbai are not Zionist. So terrorist, please take not and know the difference. On the contrary, true Torah Jews sympathizes with the Palestinian and were and still are against the formation of the Israel state. http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/index.cfm The Zionist has clearly violated GOD's commandments. Now do you believe me when I mentioned that Israel is heading towards self-destruction and they know it too. report abuse disagree 11 agree 16 ... written by SiHangChai, January 11, 2009 18:52:42 I absolutely agreed with the article; however, Hamas has to be genuinely sincere, and not be a double snake and using its own people as defence front to those Hamas insurgents. Every western nations even the UN have questioned Hamas integrity. report abuse disagree 9 agree 14 ... written by DreamLady, January 11, 2009 19:16:18 Dr. Azly, this is what I call a sweet, brief, and neat write up to woo more readers. I do hope in future, you continue to produce precise and interesting articles to further entice the readers!! Thank you for wanting to make the difference.. A happy and a wonderful morrow!! report abuse disagree 6 agree 5 ... written by Eskay Lim, January 11, 2009 21:57:06 A "Palestinian Global Village" is a very fantastically good and excellent idea which is worth discussing and be put into motion. The UN, Arab and Muslim nations can urge the King of Jordan to contribute a slice of the vast and little inhabited Jordanian territory for this purpose. Or alternatively, President Mubarack of Egypt can give up the Sinai Peninsula to the Palestinians. And of course the development of the physical infra-structure would be paid for by the wealthy Arab rulers with their oil-money and contributions from the Western and Developed countries. Only then, will there be perpetual peace in that part of the world. report abuse disagree 3 agree 18 ... written by cahaya, January 11, 2009 22:35:42 Dr Azly, Which are the Palestinians you refer to in your proposal? Today, there are several different groups of Palestinians. A large number of Palestinians have migrated to neighbouring countries such as Jordan, Egypt, and Syria. Palestinians are in West Bank under Fatah (more open to peace talks than Hamas). Palestinians in Gaza under Hamas are actually three subgroups: the politicians (the Gaza-based faction led by Ismail Haniyeh), the militants (those fighting against the Israeli army) and the ordinary citizens (displaced from their homes, suffered casualties or deaths). Some among the militant Hamas (the Damascus-based faction led by Khaled Meshal) are believed to be supported by Iran. Would two or more of these groups agree to live peacefully together in any location inside (or outside) the geographical region traditionally known as Palestine? Who would govern the global village(s)? report abuse disagree 1 agree 14 ... written by Hakim Joe, January 12, 2009 01:10:26 Dr Azly, I would suggest either relocation of the refugees or the creation of a Palestine state. Remember the 1922 British Mandate of Palestine and the 1947 UN Partition Plan? Transjordan was supposed to be constituted as an Arab province of Palestine. Since being terminated in 1948, can this be revived to allow the creation of a Palestinian State (once and for all)? report abuse disagree 0 agree 4 ... written by jalong, January 12, 2009 13:38:13 Doctor Azly, this time I actually can understand what you wrote. Thank you. Why should the Americans give any funds to the Palestinians, remember the Palestinians sang and danced on the streets when the World Trade Center was attacked by Osama bin Ladin. Besides, Osama will not approve of Muslims accepting money from infidels. The Americans and other westerners have a proven record of failing to solve the Palestinian problem. This must be solved by Muslims with Muslim resources to have a lasting impact. But do the Muslims close to the issue like the wealthy Saudis, Sheiks from Dubai, Kuwait, Abu Dhabi and other wealthy neighboring countries and other oppressive muslim countries really want to solve this problem? This Palestinian problem has served well for many countries. It wraps itself really nice with the green, white, and black Palestinian flag which might as well be the flag of Muslims or lets hate Israel and USA flag. This flag is the rallying cry of governments to divert and focus the attention of their people to external issues, any issue that has nothing to do with their administration. This flag is a common cause, it unites and saps energy away from local problems. This flag has now penetrated the psyche of Malaysians now, just look around: Did you see the number of Palestinian Flags on Friday. (Did anyone have a problem with this? I didn’t think so. I know several criticized the pictures of Gandhi during the Hindraf march). Just look at our politicians now, we are all united - PKR, UMNO, MCA making speeches for the Palestinians, Dr M has ideas Khairy leads demonstrations, Nurul talks about the plight of the Palestinians, Teresa is talking about it, school children by the thousands are going to be taught to demonstrate and hate, our college students are at it at full speed. And yet, we have the ISA, the Indians are worst off than 25 years ago, only Muslims are capable of being Mentri Besar, only a Malay can be Prime Minister. Why are we not demonstrating about corruption. Why aren't we demonstrating for meritocracy? Why aren’t we demonstrating against police brutality? Why aren’t we demonstrating for equal opportunity? You get the point. Doctor Azly, I am afraid that the global village has the ability to attract the attention of the local samsengs and that is not a good thing. Yes I know who moved the cheese. report abuse disagree 1 agree 18 ... written by AsamLaksa, January 12, 2009 18:12:33 The seeds of peace will begin once Muslims all over the world reject the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah and get down to setting a realistic non-violent settlement. Even Fatah could be brought to the negotiation table. Hamas' action in throwing rockets into Israel... how is that a fight for independence? The Israeli troops are out of Gaza since 2005. Hamas also kicked out Fatah from Gaza. Hamas wants to destroy Israel and they are using Palestinian civilians as bargaining tools. What has Hamas done to protect Palestinian civilians from the violence? report abuse disagree 1 agree 21 ... written by merchant222, January 13, 2009 08:03:34 Personally, I do not have the time to think for Palestinians who voted in their Hamas TERRORIST Government. The Hamas don't think for their own people, so why the hell should we think for them. We should be thinking about what is our own Government doing for the country for Malaysians. Here we are in disarray right in our own backyard, and we have a government who wants to put their hands into another country's problem. Solve our problems here before trying to be a HERO! report abuse disagree 1 agree 14 ... written by EUGTAN, January 13, 2009 10:31:03 We are all pained by the suffering of the Palestinians but I doubt what the good doctor precribes will work. There is a reason why there are no huge demonstartions in the West Bank in support of their brothers in the Gaza strip. This is partly because Fatah and Hamas are political enemies but I think also because they are fed up with Hamas's voilent ideology as well. Likewise, no huge demonatrations in Egypt. Very few countries will dare to take in Palestinains. Where they have settled they have caused huge problems. In 1970, they tried to overthrow Hussein in Joradn. They have upset the balance of political forces in Lebanon and caused untold misery to a country that was once the jewel of the Middle East. All these do not excuse Israel who have to face the wrath of a people whose land they have stolen (but they will justify it to say that the UN sanctioned its creation). I think the only long term solution is to let the Palestinains return to Jerusalem, declare Jerusalem an international city and link the West Bank to the Gaza strip to form a cointiguous state. Dr Rahamn's idea will cause consternation to the local population where the Palestinians settle. Worse, the settlers will be untethered to their home land and over a prieod of tiem will lose their emotional ties to Palestine. Then Palestine as a state will become only a memory. report abuse disagree 2 agree 4 ... written by Rentap, January 13, 2009 15:21:01 Why don't Israel gives Gaza to Egypt. report abuse disagree 1 agree 4 ... written by sang0kancil, January 14, 2009 01:43:53 at least... Dr Rahman give us some of his reasonable ideas... unlike Farish Noor, I think he quite angry right now; keeping writing more than 12 articles in a row! Calling us to Boycott when that act itself can do more damage to country who implement it! report abuse disagree 0 agree 3 ... written by sang0kancil, January 14, 2009 01:46:08 sorry... I retract my comment after have read Eugtan comment thoroughly! report abuse disagree 0 agree 0 ... written by kavidibaku, January 14, 2009 18:46:20 I laugh to death when people say that Israelis never had their origin land and the present Israel was stolen from palestinians. Every race had to be originated from somewhere. Why only israelis never had their land. I don't think that the israelis want to waste their time and money on gaza war. They are smart people. That is why they can survive though they are surrounded by 23 arab countries. Will malysian government keep quiet if singapore send some rockets here? Our education ministry permitted school children to demonstrate. That is the most idiotic idea i have ever heard. The Hamas is victimizing its people. Let them solve their problem. Taking them as refugees and later as bumis will lead to internal and external problems. report abuse disagree 1 agree 13 ... written by SamBall, January 14, 2009 22:50:43 The "Palestinians" elected Hamas. Let them deal with their own problems. Like I say why blame Bush? No, blame the stupid Americans who voted him in, not once but twice. They deserve the troubles they are in. Msian should not be involved in the Middle East. They will get shit in their face. Let them solve their own problems. Let Msian leaders solve their problems here at home. And yes, you are absolutely right, Jalong. When the politicians have achieved nothing for their own people, they poke their noses into other peoples business. The Palestinians are being used by so many rougues states for their own use. Take Iran as an example. What a bloody joke. And pity the poor Palestininas, though the collective guilt of the Islamic countries makes them do weird things due to inability to do anything credible. Masalama report abuse disagree 0 agree 10 ... written by Rentap, January 15, 2009 11:16:40 1. The Hebrews of the Bible have no connection to the Jews today. 2. The Prophets of the Bible were "Muslims". 3. Solomon's Temple was not built by Israelites but by Arab Canaanites. 4. The Canaanites are the forefathers of the Palestinians 5. The Bible is legends based on what Jews imagined and not on history. 6. The Jews today are descendents of a 13th Century Khazar tribe with no history in the Land of Israel. 7. The location of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem is a Zionist invention. 8. Zionism is Racism. LONG LIVE HAMAS ! report abuse disagree 20 agree 3 ... written by Forex, January 18, 2009 09:06:46 Why dont our gomen solve the illegal in Sabah 1st before poking on other people problem? After the Ops recently, (Sabah) Kota Kinabalu still got a lot illegal! Now somebody want to add more non-Malaysian into the country? What the heck! report abuse disagree 0 agree 7 ... written by Heaven8402, January 18, 2009 13:54:50 Suggestions: Why not create also "Indonesia and Bagla and Vietnam and Mynmar-Global Village" as well. Better still why not create "World Village" so that everybody are taken care of?! Nothing has been done to take care of the rootcause yet? report abuse disagree 0 agree 4 ... written by agadam magadam, January 18, 2009 23:09:16 Dr Azly.. My admiration for you and I've been following your articles in this Site with great interest..Always very interesting and well written.. ..Can you, Sir, please visit this Site...www.terrorismawareness.org and let us know your comments on the facts about Jews... ....Regards... report abuse disagree 0 agree 0 ... written by agadam magadam, January 18, 2009 23:22:46 To Rentap and his likes... who shoot their mouths without knowing the facts... ... Visit this Great Website... and you tell me... what you make of it.. ...www.terrorismawareness.org.... When the Hamas fire rockets into Israel and kill their people, it's right, is it..?? When the Israelis retaliate...they're wrong..... The Hamas deserve what they are getting from Israel... They fire rockets from Family occupied homes, where you have women and children living... The Israelis detect the source from where the rocket firepower was launched and replies.. What happens then.... The occupants get killed.. Whose fault..?? Only Malaysia and other Muslim countries, front pages a bloodied Palestine woman or child being carried.. OR a Palestine man crying.. What about the Israelis killed by the Hamas..?? Who cries for them..?? They defend their people against the mindless Hamas..That's their right..One Israeli is worth a dozen Hamas... report abuse disagree 2 agree 10 |
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By establishing a Palestinian Global village in every concerning nation will make Israel more than happy coz that is what they wanted all these years... they want to occupy the land... pulling the Palestinian out especially the children will solve Israel's problem but not the Palestinian.
I do not agree with this idea. Palestinian ..all of them must stay foot on their land and Israel must get out. If not by peace, by political and economic pressure..if not, Israel must be kicked out by a united global military might!!!