| Who is our real Father of Malaysian Independence? | | | |
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| Tuesday, 02 September 2008 10:04 | |
| We need to revisit the questions instead of finalise the answers. I think historians like Professor Khoo Khay Kim need to also understand what the new thinking about history and historicising now means. Here are my thoughts on this. Azly Rahman dr.azly.rahman@gmail.com The French thinker Voltaire once said: "There is no history, only fictions of varying degrees of plausibility."
Comments (22) ... written by Bigjoe99, September 02, 2008 10:43:37 Lets talk about the price of indepedence. How much more Chinese blood was spilled fighting against the Japanese compared to the what was really a multi-cultural demand for independence? report abuse disagree 5 agree 39 ... written by ahmadneil, September 02, 2008 10:48:04 Independence has no meaning if those fuking crooks still preaches racism. report abuse disagree 1 agree 51 ... written by cwy, September 02, 2008 11:02:16 Your father, a Malay chauffer for British colonist, an Indian rubber tapper or a Chinese tin-mine labourer can be the real father of Malaysian Independence! report abuse disagree 1 agree 47 ... written by joeawk, September 02, 2008 11:23:19 Merdeka? my foot. From the frying pan onto the fire is not merdeka. Merdeka for the likes of that UMNO Bukit Bendera mother ****er. There is no need for the MCA and Gerakan to call for UMNO to discipline the bloke. The UMNO chief has said that he will ask the bloke not to re[eat his statement. hahaha. That, we all knows totally inadequate and what MCA and Gerakan need to do is just leave the coalition. There is also no need for the DAP to report the bloke for sedition, what is the police for. report abuse disagree 5 agree 41 ... written by SocratesI, September 02, 2008 11:25:53 Independence Comes From Within Us, our indomitable spirit to be our own person and have our own ideas without bowing down to any despotic power who wants to rule us in body or in mind !! Therefore, the Real Father of Malaysian Independence is OURSELVES as long as we have that SPIRIT of INDEPENDENCE in our Psyche and our INDOMITABLE WILL to see it through !! report abuse disagree 1 agree 21 ... written by MsiaCTzen, September 02, 2008 12:12:58 Who is our real Father of Malaysian Independence? As far as i am concern is My Father. When he gave me my independent key and my University sponsorship. I was 18. At 21 he gave me a house and at 23 he gave me a car. The rest is up to me, he said. His advice was "Don't trust Barisan National and their coalition parties" Vote against them. A vote for the monkey is better the those Barisan Moron. report abuse disagree 4 agree 52 ... written by NSTPravda, September 02, 2008 12:26:34 Who is our real Father of Malaysian Independence? What father? What Independence? What nonsense? We are ruled by UMNO, a bunch of congenital retards Who behaved like a party of self serving bastards. At the beginning we might have some visions Now all we have is the politics of division All the regime knows is to grab and grab more Which account for our current problems galore The problem is that our leaders deny there are problems Not even when catastrophe is gnawing at their scrotums All they know is to preserve their loot in every way Pretending that everything is indeed semua-nya OK! report abuse disagree 2 agree 26 ... written by Uncle Tan, September 02, 2008 13:45:52 There are always 3 sides to a coin - the head, the tail and the edge. report abuse disagree 1 agree 5 ... written by cheekhiaw, September 02, 2008 15:10:56 LAND OF NOT SENSE BUT SENSITIVTY This land is full of sensitive people making insensitive remarks while demanding that others be sensitive to them. Voltaire might have also said 'There is no sensitivity, only frictions from varying degree of stupidity'. xxx report abuse disagree 0 agree 21 ... written by CPY, September 02, 2008 15:35:57 History will be somehow 'altered' by discarding 'undesirable section' or 'reinterpretation'. For now, the real Father of Malaysian Independence is Tunku Abdul Rahman, although detractors say that he is a pro-British figure which cooperated with them to 'retreat safely' & won't lose anything like in some countries. People like Hitler can be seen as someone contributiong to decolonisation because he started a war, many countires like India become independent which is split into 2 countries later, China regain Shanghai(it was a consession, de facto colony) & several consession, except, Macau, HK & lands ceded to Russia. report abuse disagree 0 agree 2 ... written by sonofman0, September 02, 2008 16:21:45 "Must we then believe, as the great playwright Oscar Wilde said - that "…the one duty we owe to history is to rewrite it"?" Better still, like native historians of old, we should "retell" it from generation to generation to counter the "political" stories that are palmed off as "official" history. Where better can we do this but within the family: from parents to children to grandchildren in the privacy of the home? We must be particularly careful not to swallow totally "the father of this" and "the father of that" designations. Remember "the Great White Father" stories the native Indians had to swallow. What "Great White Father"? Now they and we, know better. But for them at what great expense! Let it not be so for us also. report abuse disagree 0 agree 5 ... written by densemy, September 02, 2008 17:03:16 The bad news for you is that the young generation of Malaysians couldnt give a monkey's f**k about the future of this country. They are altogether too selfish and they have had their abilities to think for themselves and think into the future repressed by domineering forces in this society On an internet website frequented by young Malaysians, I recently posed this question "The question is should religion and state be two separate entities??" This website has an active discussion forum on a whole range of issues. These forums are frequented by young 20 to 40 yo predominantly Malays with a higher than average standard of education. In fact this is one of the few places where young Malays can actually speak openly about the sensitive issues that are so often banned by mainstream Malaysia The response was abysmal. Apart from the usual rash of insults and attempts to change the subject which are the way that young muslims deal with their issues. The only relevant response I got out of maybe 200 postings was: "I'm, Happy There's Still Religious Bodies Controlling The Citizens. So They Will Not Over React And Thus Will Control Our Harmonious Multi Racial Society. " I'll leave you to decide how much promise this statement holds for the future of this country report abuse disagree 1 agree 10 ... written by sambal muncha, September 02, 2008 20:13:56 Nice writing, Azly. With due respect though, it would be somewhat nice to have readers participate in a relevant manner in this potentially thought provoking forum, rather than turn this into a platform for empty political bickering. report abuse disagree 0 agree 6 ... written by samesamemam, September 02, 2008 23:24:19 interestin stuff, critical questions, radical epistemologies...can the subaltern speak...I guess, simply put, the wrong questions were asked by the wrong persons of wrong things...who is the father, mother or bastard of independence...most comments have raised an even more radical, and perhaps more justified, question - "what independence are we talking about"... report abuse disagree 0 agree 3 ... written by harrbm, September 02, 2008 23:56:08 >< Wow ! I am allowed to comment! I can write what think I want to tell ! It sure feels good to be able speak out my mind. Who is the father of independence? I was told he was Tunku Abdul Rahman not Lee Kuan Yew. But really, i feel that Onn Jaafar should be the father of independence. Of course Chin Peng has a part in it too. What do you think? anyway, why does it matter ? > report abuse disagree 0 agree 5 ... written by temenggong, September 02, 2008 23:58:30 An answer to the immediate question would be as follows. The formation of the Indian National Congress in 1886 led to the freedom movements all over the world in all the colonies, including China. The next major and defining moment would have the Yalta Talks where Franklin Delano Roosevelt demanded that the european powers dismantle their colonies as a condition of America's entry in WW2 in Europe. Roosevelt would be the 'father' of Malaysia's independence. American involvement was underscored again in 1965 when Robert Kennedy warned Indonesia about belligerence against Malaysia when he was in Tokyo! This eventually led to Sukarno being deposed by Suharto. The local 'Bapa' may be Putera-AMCJA in the period 1945-1947. Everything was settled by this date. The only thing left was the handover date and the party to handover it to. In 1948 it was decided to hand over to the imbecilic Umno composed of school teachers. report abuse disagree 0 agree 6 ... written by ROBERTNGTG, September 03, 2008 07:52:26 I have a proposition for those wishing to find out who the real father of Merdeka is: I think the real fathers and mother of independence are the free spirits within all of us multi-cultural human beings; those existential spirits within us that refuse to bow down to any sign, symbols, and signification of colonization, be they in human or material form. SPOT ON DR. THAT IS THE TRUE SPIRIT. WHY ARE WE STILL HAVING NARROW MINDED LEADERS WHO STILL PARROT AND CHAMPION ONLY FOR THEIR OWN SELFISH PRESERVATION/KIND/BREED AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS?? AND THESE SO CALLED LEADERS ARE SITTING AT THE VERY TOP OF THE ECHELONS IN THIS COUNTRY?? WE HV TO KICK OUT SUCH TYPES FOR GOOD. report abuse disagree 0 agree 5 ... written by densemy, September 03, 2008 09:37:40 The Father of Independence. He is nowhere in sight Muslims favourite passtime is looking backwards... after all, isnt that what the Q'ran teaches them. The answer to every possible situation lies in a book written in the 6 th C AD, a book which is the direct word of god and as such cannot be questioned. And ever since Merdeka, muslims have been looking backward to the great and inspiring leaders who lead them out of a dismally dark past into the bright future as Malaysians, the owners of a new country with unlimited potential. You have lauded your leaders of the past as though they were semi deities and you have overlooked all their shortcomings. Its only since the shortcomings of the more recent leaders have become too long to ignore than this country has begun to think for itself. So what is this Independence you so proudly talk of? It seems to me that you threw off the yolk of a benevolent colonialist who in its short reign over this country provided you with more institutions and infrastructure than ever existed in the previous 700 odd years of Malayan culture The Brits provided you with a road and rail system which never previously existed, they provided you with a set of institutions which were the envy of many third world countries. A fair and just judiciary, an honest and effective police force, we wont say too much about the army. But the system of education they bequeathed you was world class and good enough to spawn the NUS, one of the top universities in the world. They improved the economy of the nation to a level never before believed possible. And their final gift was a Constitution of which any democratic country would be proud And then along came one man... and he personally tore all that was good about Malaysia apart. He promoted a new colonial master but this time it was a malevolent master. This new master tore apart all the institutions that helped make Malaysia a civilised nation. And this new master destroyed all the gifts that the Brits and your Constitution bestowed on you. All this was done under the guise that it was good for you Malaysia is further from Independence now than it ever was in the early 1950's report abuse disagree 4 agree 22 ... written by Taiping60, September 05, 2008 00:10:37 To me, the real father of independence is Raja Petra. What Tunku Abdul Rahman gave the nation the independence from the British. What Raja Petra did is to give Malaysians the independence to express themselve and the independence to make decision otherwise March 8 and the Permatang Puah will not happen the way it did. report abuse disagree 0 agree 6 ... written by Fairminded, September 05, 2008 20:33:19 The biggest problem with a post colonial country which had gained independence is that the political party that negotiated the idependence tends to think that they owned the country and any opposition or criticism of their policies is interpreted as disloyalty to the country. They are the new colonial masters. It is not only Malaysia. It is depressing. Malaysia is an idependent country? Dont kid yourself. It is a colony of the UMNO/BN. Time to fight for our real independence. report abuse disagree 0 agree 1 ... written by Loh, September 07, 2008 22:16:43 ///I think the real fathers and mother of independence are the free spirits within all of us multi-cultural human beings; those existential spirits within us that refuse to bow down to any sign, symbols, and signification of colonization, be they in human or material form.///-- Azly Rahman The free spirit, if there exists, stays on. If it is something natural, then the true spirit to be free cannot coexist with the desire to 'colonize' others. The fact that racism is getting worse can be attributed to the desire to exploit, which goes against the natural tendency to respect free spirit. The father of independence is the person who cared not only for himself but also for the welfare of others. He dared to think that change was possible, and was willing to sacrifice, if unavoidable, to achieve his objective. The others joined in for the hope that they might eventually gain something which were not available to them then. The so-called free spirit might help to explain the intiative needed to undertake the task, by the person who had the courage to embark on an unknown journey. That spirit does not present in every person. |
The bloody British were flat broke after WWII and would have literally kick Malaya out if they did not ask for Independence. So what was the big fuking deal about fighting for independence and all that crap? Just abunch of lies to glorify so-and-so!