Friday, January 16, 2009

Gaza: latest -- 1000 deaths mostly civilians

Spoke to a friend who attended an emergency meeting on Gaza, at the United Nations in New York City. Almost 1000 have died. The world awaits the help of the United States in stopping this crime against humanity.





But did Israel create Hamas?



8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well your math is bad. 50%++ civilian casualties don't sound like "mostly" to me. 70% & more is.
Pls go get your doctorate in Math. You need it brother!!

Anonymous said...

Dr Azly, some math genius is obviously ignorant to the facts that this high casualty of civilians happened due to Hamas launching its attacks from civilians populated area. There were times when Hamas did it from Christian populated area. Mathgenius should stay in Gaza for several months to see what's going on instead of spewing ignorance from the comfort of his/her home.

Hamas shouldnt pick a fight with Israel if it cant take the heat. Israelis have the right to live and sleep in peace without worrying about Hamas raining rockets on them. Israelis didnt occupy Palestinians land. It was the Arabs who betrayed Palestinians by confiscating the land and sold it to Jews after the World War 2. That's when the mass exodus of Jews from Europe to the middle east began.

Mind you, Palestinian themselves are troublemakers. They are not welcome by locals in Eygpt, Iraq, Jordan, Syria and UAE eventhough on political front it seems otherwise. In Iraq, the locals hated Palestinians so much that after the fall of Saddam (Saddam put Palestinians on pedestal and showered them with luxury while the Iraqis languishing on the poverty shelves), the Iraqis went on rampage through the Palestinians neighbourhood. That speaks volume.

Tamerlane said...

50%, 70% whats the difference? Its 100% palestinian dead for their homeland. This is Bush "wounded knee" farewell present.

Obama should put an end to this zionist colonialism thats has been putting palestinians in refugee camps for 3 generations in their own lands. That is if he wants to top Lincolns achievements. Zionism is the new Pharoah enslaving the palestinians. Obama should be the Moses to set these people free. Oh moses send the 7 plagues onto Israel.

Theres should only be a one state soluition to this with the dismantling of the zionist hegemony. A state where both palestinians and jews can live in. A two state outcome only demonstrates that there is no solution to the conflict and both cant get along. It will also create division and future animosities and wars just like India and pakistan. It will prove beyond a doubt that the US is a colonial power in collusion with the zionists by carving Palestine into borders.

btw. that palestinian hip hop video is really cool. I wish they had infused more hard rock element and spit more venom like Rage against the Machine. The Palestinians really have the opression and devastation to speak that poetry. I hope they make it big so their message can be heard around the world especially in america.

Tamerlane said...

The entire occupied territoty was sold to the jews? wow this is new revealation. Where can i get this book? Is this also the same book that said hang tuah was a chinese and has DNA evidence to prove it? That book seems elusive. I been trying to find it. Is it sold only in DAP branches or in Petaling street as well?

If there is such sale why is there a conlict? If a land is stolen and sold it without the consent of the owner is it still deemed a legitimate sale? Hamas didnt exist in 1948, Israel created Hamas, Hezbullah, fatah etc. Hamas freedom fighters didnt fire on Irael, they fired on occupied territory.

If sum towkay hire thugs to kick you out of your land then build a bungalow on in, can you be blamed for throwing rocks that break the windows? Does the towkay have a right to highre a security guards to kill yOu?

Your illustration on SadamsIraqi palestinian doesnt show that they are troublemakes IMO. What it shows is selective preference of a group of people over the natives. Just like what the zionist are doing. The end to colonialism is the only solution to this.

Anonymous said...

Tamerlane-as usual u r fanatic who cannot see facts and talk practical points. Obviously peoplpe like u r blinded by anti Israel/ 'love at all cost as long as Muslim' kind of guy. Don't get me wrong I have all my sympathies to the palestinias civilian AND Israel civilians and the SriLangkan tamil civilian, the Sudanian civilains, the Drafur victims, the Zimbabve people etc etc.

- First of all how come all the Arab nations close to Palestinians don't run amok like u half cooked malaysians? Arabs definately know more about the situation there.
Just because u guys hate Israel not that u care about humanitarian crisis, since u don't cry over any other human crisis happening all over the world. U don condem our goverment allowing Mugabe happily holidaying when he causes all the inhamate suffering of Zimbwe. So u will only react if Mugabe is a Jew and the Zimbabwe is a majority Muslim country?
- Why our tax payers money should be only spent on palestinians not for others crisis?
- If Hamas really cares, they wil choose alternative to fighting their enemy- without sacrificing their own people. Why should they expose the palestinian civilians by doing what they are doing. They are also launching rockets towards Israelian civilians. So it is ok for Israelian civilains to do?
If paraents want to harm their own children (like what Hamas is doing to its civilians now), I think they don't care. How you expect their enemy to care for Hamas's children when Hamas themselves don't care about their safety and well being.
- This issue is of israel palestinians is complex partly because the palestinains-(Hamas, Fatah- Syiah sunni etc) themselves are divided and -devided they want to fight with their enemy.
Why can't they spend money and energy building their country, however difficult it may be, and make sure they prosper and able to stand their own before thrying to beat and 'unbeatable' enemey? What u call that? I call that STUPID!

Tamerlane said...

You people can say what you want, About others being stupid etc. Thats the only kick you get out of the sitution. Are you providing any solution here or suggesting any? Youre justy pissed off that the muslims are attached the Palestinian issue instead of hindraf or what not. Perhasps because we have a long history that goes back over a thousand years. Palestinians ancestors have been living there long before abraham,moses, or david so the jews should treat them with respect and not like criminals.
Take the Jap occupation for example, the japs only occupied malaya for a few years and it already raise negative feelings and psychological trauma on old folks when the issue is raised. Palestinians have been occupied for 60 + years. People have been born and died in refugee camps. I think this sissue takes priority over the zimbabwaens or provocations by Hindraf. Besides this issue is about colonialization not the brutal dictatorship of an african ruler. This issue seriously affect the global peace and security as any muslim (so they call themselves) terrorist will definately raise this issue. From alqueda to PLO to Mumbia. Solving this is essential to global peace.

Which Israeli are civilian? All of them are required to serve in the IDF. On top of that the rockets were fired on occupied lands, illegal settlement. if they fire crude homemade rocket then fire one back la.Why the heavy artillery knowingh there will be massive civilian casualties? This massacre is pre planned all along during the 6 month truce. Yes i hate the evil masked as Israel. But that is in no way a demonstation of antisemitiosm. I believe that jews and muslims should coexist. And Just because the arabs arent united in this issue, that doesnt mean that other non arab muslims or non should have a say in this issue.


Spend money and energy building what country? Theyre living in refugees camp, besieged and huge arpartite walls built around them. Anything built will be reduced to rubble in the next zionist military campaign under whatever pretext. The zionist are systematically judaising the area and removing any signs of arab or palestinians that they can.
This is not an 'unbeatable" enemy. We sholdnt try to defeat it militarily but dismantle the zionist mindset so jews realize it is wrong and the "empire" crumbles. Even the Russian and british were once defeated by the japs, The ducth by the Indons, Apartheid by mandela, Goliath by David and even the titanic sank.

Anonymous said...

Tamarlane, why dont you stay in Gaza for several months instead of spewing ignorance in here? What homemade rockets are you babbling about? Go to Gaza and see for yourself if those rockets are homemade. See for yourself where the rockets are launched from.

Stop diverting from the issues by dragging DAP and Chinese into your irrational outrage.

Tamerlane said...

Going to Gaza and be masacred by the zionst? How is that going to help the cause? Everyone should exert pressure, especially Americans and europeans on their respective goverments to put pressure on the zionist You are demonizing me and muslims becasue we make noise and refuse to be a lame duck zionist agent like singapork geting their perks from their collusion? Which part is irratiopnal? Boycotting the products made by companes aiding the zionist? Or the one state solution?

Whe shouldnt limit the boycot to just american companies supporting zionism but any company, even those owned by malaysians. If the chinks can call for a boycott of ahmad Ismail why cant the muslims and the anti-zionists use the same tactic againts the zionist? DAP? after 20 days of massacre only DAP have the bolas to come up an official denunciation of the atrocities? yeah, I wont put much hope on these guys, afterall they have a cruise missle as a logo and hellbent on erasing anything malay in memory from roadsigns to whatnot. Bring in the Chinese? Truth hurts dont it?For your info I go to the supermarket daily and i observe what people buy and you can see for yourself which segment of our society is ignorant to the palestinnian cause. Identifying this group would make me termed as a racist.So go figure

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